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good morning hello and welcome back
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i hope you guys are having a wonderful
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saturday morning we have some really fun
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comparison for you this morning
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so this morning we are going to compare
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uh comparing df64
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okay that's all stock okay i'm i haven't
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done any kind of modification
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yet and i'm going to compare that with
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bravo barista pro the building
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grinder okay so let's look look at the
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specs so this
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uh 64 millimeter flapper on
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the f64 and then uh rubber bristol pro
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is the conic rubber i believe is about
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48 millimeter i think yeah i think
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i think they're about 48 millimeter or
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just under 50.
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so it's big difference there okay so you
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got conical versus
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flat bur so give you a different kind of
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like tasting notes
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kind of it's not the bring out uh bring
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out the
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with the flapper bring out all the nutty
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and chocolatey flavor i think it
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enhances it and then with the conical
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board is more for like
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a little bit more brighter side of it
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like somewhat fruity
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it's not kind of enhanced somewhat so
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we are comparing apple to orange here
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but okay
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but i think it's gonna it's gonna be
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good comparison that if you are thinking
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about
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upgrading your coffee machine so instead
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of upgrading your copy machine
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just get yourself you know good grinder
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might be good option okay by the way if
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your first time joining us
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my morning channel is pretty much all
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about giving you guys a live
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uh product review and also since this is
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not edited
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i'm you guys going to see the beginning
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to end
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find out i mean this is a product you
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might want to purchase
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or you know down the road so i think i
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like to give you the full picture
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rather than kind of like edit it and
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chop it and just give you you know the
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things
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you guys might want to see but in this
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case
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you're gonna get everything okay so
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let's get going so uh
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i'm dialing in 19 grams here i got 19
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gram of medium to darker roast
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so this is from again i've been using
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good brothers coffee for a while so so
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this is good brothers coffee
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so let's start with barista pro
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and then uh you know what we are going
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to use bottomless pork filter
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so let's uh i'm going to show you guys a
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different
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great thing about the bottomless portion
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you guys are going to see the quality of
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the grinds okay
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and they uh also distribution technique
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and so this is great tool and also great
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comparison
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uh for the both grinders so i have
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bottomless portafilter so this is not a
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stock okay so this
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is just uh i upgraded to 18 to 20 grand
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baskets
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this is not a ims just the regular
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amazon filter baskets
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inexpensive is only about 15 bucks so
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i do have ims filter basket here
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but i'm not gonna use this because i
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know most of you you don't have the ims
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so so i know i know a lot of you have
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this
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uh just a 18 to 20 gram basket from
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amazon so
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we are going to skip this one for now
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okay
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and then let's do 18 to 20
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and then i have a 19 gram
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i'm gonna hit up my shot glass
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good
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so let's get going so let's start with
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this
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okay since this is not a single dose but
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i do like to just tap it
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like so bring out all the coffee grinds
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again we are doing the uh
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bottomless so whenever i use bottomless
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i always use my wdt tools
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okay i'm just gonna make sure dick clump
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everything everything is
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nice and flat okay
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i know this is a little tedious process
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but
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it comes to using bottomless
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definitely worth doing
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okay
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i'm just going to distribute
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and give it a good time okay comes the
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temping pressure
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just be consistent okay it doesn't have
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to be 30 pounds of pressure just be
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consistent and
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make everything nice and flat here
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so you got 19 grams so let's do one to
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two ratio okay one to two ratio is
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pretty difficult and
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uh so far i like the best i'm going to
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weight my shot
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i got eight 19 grime in and around 40
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gram
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out
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good
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so this is
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shot from briber barista pro okay
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shooting for again around 40 gram there
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and i'm going to do is i'm going to do a
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manual mode
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about five seconds you know let's do
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like
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seven second pre-feature
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sure looks good i'm shooting for 40
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grand
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perfect about 22 seconds
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okay so that's pretty good shot there i
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guess i like them a little longer but
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i take it
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okay all right looks pretty good all
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right so
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so let's give it a try
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so the first shot is uh
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brew from bribery step pro because smear
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is really good
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okay so great thing about this glass i'm
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using a glass from croup
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has a fin inside the glass there so you
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don't have to stir it anymore you're
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just going to
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swerve it like so bring out all the
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flavor
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okay
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smooth it's quite nice
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quite nice all right so let's move on to
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i know that's what you guys are here for
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okay i know you guys are here
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to see i'm actually pretty excited about
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this grinder as well
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i'm really interested in the workflow
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of it because with the niche
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it was fantastic okay working with the
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niche is really fun
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but the f64 obviously
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with a flat bur but
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with a single dose fact is i'm a big fan
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of single dough so
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okay
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by the way so i did a simple
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modification on my df6 but even though i
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haven't done any modification but
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let me show you what i did so here's the
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their plastic cup here so this is my old
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this is 58 millimeter so this is my
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another dosing cup
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so what i done was i simply like this
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so in this case i'm going to close the
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gap
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let me show you what i mean by that here
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we go
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so right now we have the space between
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the shoot versus the cuff it's about
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that tall okay
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so which means we we might have some
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static issues and you know
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make a little messy so
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once i've put the dosing cup here inside
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just simply just put inside
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now the gap is such i mean even closer
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so we're not going to have that issue
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okay
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so let's do this
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so tear it up
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so i measure out 19 gram
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so let's
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got 19.8 gram there
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19.7 19.08
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so let's start with
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make sure this is single dose okay
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put back in the top by the way the power
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button is
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right on the bottom
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and then you just simply
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pop it okay a couple times
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that's it
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i mean everything is pretty actually
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pretty clean okay i think
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having that close the gap make a big
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difference so we are at 19.08
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19. okay 19 grams so we are talking
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about
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goodness point zero point zero one gram
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so if you guys are looking for zero
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dosing
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especially being a flat so this is
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you know what i'm this is as good as get
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okay i'm perfectly fine with it so i put
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19.08 gram
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in 19 gram out so this difference of
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0.08 gram
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so it's not a big deal okay even 0.1
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gram is not
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.01 grams a point one gram is not a big
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deal either so
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yeah okay so here's the problem
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this is a 58 millimeter it's not gonna
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fit there
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so so i i know a lot of you have this 3d
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dosing funnel at home
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you know what it works just fine okay
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and then we're gonna do the wdt on this
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again
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the the fact is this coffee grinds is
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already
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fluffy anyway but
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we're going to do the another wdt here
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i'm just going to distribute
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and tap i'm actually looking forward to
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pulling a shot okay because
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i mean you should be better than okay so
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you saw earlier this shot was pretty
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good okay
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there's no a lot of channeling there
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works fine
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hopefully we're gonna get a better shot
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than
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our building grinder so let's find out
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i'm just gonna toss this water again
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we're gonna be doing
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one to two ratio
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okay here we go this is all we're
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waiting for
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okay
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all right i'm doing the same as before
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i'm gonna do the seven second
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pre-infusion
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[Music]
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a little okay channeling there as well a
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little bit on the bottom
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but that's not a big deal
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like a 40 gram exact a little bit of
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channeling on that corner but
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yeah pretty good
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but real question is is it's going to be
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any taste difference
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okay dark rich man
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beautiful crema let's find the
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because again the flatburg give you that
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bring out a lot of kind of nutty-ness or
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chocolate in the flavor out so
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okay smell the same i'm just gonna
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swerve it
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cheers
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wow you know you
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okay i have to say okay even niche or
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df-64
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give it a fuller taste give it more body
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let's put it that way okay more body
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texture
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and then if you guys like the espresso a
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lot
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i mean having a good grinder make a big
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difference
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hold on let me try this one again okay
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so this is the bristol pro
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it's been about a couple minutes
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okay hold on a second so this is the
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df64
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giving more body more smooth so again if
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you guys
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like espresso at and
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i think getting like niche or df64
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it could be it could be a better option
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let's put it that way
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so instead of getting another machine i
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think i spent money on the
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separate grinder but so tomorrow is
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going to be a big day
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so we are going to compare uh df64
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versus niche
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okay side by side comparison there we're
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going to talk about the workflow
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big price difference uh 4.49 at the
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espresso outlet
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right now even amazon as well so this
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one i'm going to shout out to joe from
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espresso outlet he's nicest enough to
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send
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us you know one full review so
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thank you joe if you are watching uh
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anyway so we are going to compare the
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workflow
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and also comes the quality of shots
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so we are going to use the bottomless
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port filter so you guys are going to see
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the shot quality
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there as well and then again
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just slight change and slide okay we are
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talking about tiny
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channeling that's it so i mean for me i
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mean that's considered as a success
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so it comes to shock quality it's give
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you a more fuller a body
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okay from the separate grinder like
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niche or
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a df64 but if you're if you're playing
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and making americana
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or latte or any kind of milk based drink
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you're not going to tell the difference
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the
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describe the the incremental the quality
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inc
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is such small amount once you start
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tasting the milk based drink
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but if you are if you love espresso
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yeah you are going to tell the
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difference for sure i mean you know it's
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going to be significant
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no but you are going to definitely tell
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the difference between
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built-in grinder versus the separate
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grinder and let's see what else oh by
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the way give you a quick
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update on the our kind of like
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the road to my next coffee machine so
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far we raised 350
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eight dollars what did i say this
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morning 350.
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oh 324 so far okay 324 dollars so far so
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uh my next question is again
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it's going to be durable with obviously
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it comes with the pid
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and e61 group head
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and also if i can get the flow control
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if you
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you'd be great so i think that's the
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motion i'm looking at so by the way if
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you haven't liked this video
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uh any question this morning
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so mike asked me what modification i'm
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gonna do
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uh let's see you know i do want to get
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like
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maybe i maybe i might need to talk to
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linda okay linda's been busy with 3d
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printer
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maybe like anti-anti-popcorn thing
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perhaps and i was thinking about getting
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ssp burr
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but you know what let's play with the uh
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this one for a while
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because it might be it might be okay
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okay the reason why we saw some tiny bit
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channeling
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because this is brand new bird set it
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hasn't
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you have to go through some kind of like
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fuel cycle okay to
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get the consistent grind so again this
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is a brand new bird
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so this is my what second shot that's it
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ever so i mean so i do need to align my
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birth set as well so i got some work to
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do on this one but this has come from
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just from the box okay just from the box
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uh works pretty good
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i have to say
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somebody asking me do i you know what
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you don't need to do any kind of
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modification if you don't want to
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the reason why people do modification is
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because first place fun
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okay it's fun to modify and
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yeah the alignment
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uh i highly recommend it okay so that's
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what i'm gonna do i'm gonna
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put a few more shots and then just make
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sure everything's online
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and then after that it's gonna be you
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know
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that's the next step
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so dave asked do i have any issues with
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the static you know what
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let's see not really by the way so this
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shot was a little
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fast wasn't it yeah that shot was a
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little fast
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you know let's put one more shot okay
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dave so you get to see the
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what exactly how much stack we're gonna
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get
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so right now i'm set at here let me show
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you
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with these grinders
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so right now this hopefully you guys can
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see it this is not a
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i wish this there's there's some kind of
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marking there you see that
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screw screw there that's kind of like
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starting point right here so i met
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around grinder setting around
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maybe 17 or so 17 or
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okay right here so the shot was a little
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fast so i'm gonna go
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so clockwise you go finer okay
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counterclockwise means closer so i have
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to make a little finer
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i'm going to make slight adjustment okay
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maybe a couple notch so this is step
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less grinder
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so you have to go so there's no click
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you have to kind of like fear for it so
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i moved to the little finer side
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so what i'm going to do is i'm going to
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put another 19 grime in and let's put
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another shot
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and then you get to see the any kind of
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static issues if you can see it
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okay and then go from there
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and in this case you know what we died
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in one more time so i think hopefully
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we're gonna get the shot we want
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okay all right so let's do that
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one more here we're gonna do another 19
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grams
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good
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so you get to see what kind of retention
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we're gonna get
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as well so a second time around
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so we have a 19 point
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each bean represents about 1 gram so
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there we go so we are at exactly 19
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grams
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i'm just going to pop it in here
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again so only mod not even my i have
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this dosing cup
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put it in that's it
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okay here let's see i'm just going to
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start the
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coffee grind right here
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i have to say it looks pretty good okay
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i don't see any
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uh a lot of static issues
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and then just just pump it
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a couple of times that's it
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shut it up i got 19 gram
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in
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eighteen point seven grammar so i'm up
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0.3 grams somewhere it's hiding
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somewhere okay
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i'm okay with it
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so again so if you are looking for truly
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zero dosing
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man that's i don't know i mean i know
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there is a machine like that out there
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but
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i'm not gonna pick you over 0.2 gram so
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hold up just in case i'm i'm
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hold on a second
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okay you know what let's see how much i
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found it
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yeah i got point 18.8 gram right now so
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yeah it's not a big deal
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yeah not a big deal at all okay so
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let's do one more shot here so again we
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change the grinder setting
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to a little finer one before
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we're gonna do the wdt again
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okay
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looks pretty good there so this is a
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pretty much a third shot ever
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using df-64
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okay and then
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temp
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all right let's do that one more time
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we're gonna do the seven second
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pre-infusion
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and then let's do again again
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40 gram out one to two ratio
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here we go
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uh sure looks good
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yeah what do you guys think okay i think
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this you know that works pretty good
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okay beautiful shot which is with dire
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then
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i think we dived in just right there
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did you guys see any channeling you did
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how bad was it yeah i see
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yeah i see that i see some a little bit
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of channeling sir
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and then but now he's even more i think
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i bet you if i'm gonna
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if i'm going to
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let's see i'll change my grinder size
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and the dosing amounts
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tweak it a little bit i'm going to spend
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more time on
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wdt perhaps and maybe not maybe without
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the wt this
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next time if i'm gonna do it so that's
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what we're gonna do maybe tomorrow
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okay whether comparing with the niche
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and df-64
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so let's do that without wdt
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so that case we're gonna see the truly
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april the upper comparison
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because sometimes whenever i do a wdt
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you know one shot to shot or depend
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again it's all about consistency okay
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so so i'm going to take that away
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okay so i don't have to worry about it
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so we are going to compare it
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okay so this is our third shot actually
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second shot or right after we
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met or just i just mind the grinder
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sitting there so
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cheers
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oh yeah much better okay shot is a lot
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better than one before so
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okay i hope this video helps okay i hope
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this video
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kind of give you guys enough information
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so that you know if it is something you
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guys want to buy
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for 449 okay i can't beat it because i
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know or
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satay 270 wi
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brazza amazing coffee grinder
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loud but they are fantastic they're like
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540.
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okay so this is 100 cheaper
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and by the way this is not a sponsored
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video so
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you know i again i don't get any
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commission out of it
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but so far what i experienced
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yesterday and today you know keep
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watching okay keep watching do not make
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any decision right now
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with this grinder but uh i'm planning on
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using
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obviously today tomorrow as well and
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next week you know so
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hopefully you guys get some good idea
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and then once you start using it more
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the grinder is going to the bursa is
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going to be nice and seasoned
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by then i think we're going to get a
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better shot so
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first three shot the minimum channeling
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so far so good okay let's see
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what someone asked me that what do you
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consider as best beans you know what the
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best thing is
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whatever beans that you like to drink
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because there is a goodness all
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the coffee beans from all over the world
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and you know
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all based on the who's roasting as well
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which roastery
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how fresh they are these are it's very
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complex
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so try new coffee beans uh again i've
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been using good brothers coffee
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for a while i do have a coupon code
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below on my description section as well
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so
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you know just try whoever okay just keep
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trying it just find the coffee beans you
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like
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you know i mean that's the fun of making
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coffee at home because you have a lot of
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options
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if you go to coffee shops pretty much
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you know you have to drink
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whatever they give you with uh making
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coffee at home
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again you you pick and choose okay the
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thing is you know what you like
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that sometimes sometimes i have no idea
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what
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you know good espresso tastes like i
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mean that's the reason why
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i'm making keep making these videos i
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haven't i have not found that
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coffee beans yet okay my goal hopefully
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and by end of this year i'm going to
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find the beans that i
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absolutely love okay that is the plant
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for my channel
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so so tomorrow morning uh i have a brand
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new bag
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from columbia okay it's got colombia
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natural uh this is a natural process
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coffee beans
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i have not opened it yet so i'm going to
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open it tomorrow morning
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and we are going to do a comparison side
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by side
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it's gonna be exciting okay
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one more question
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someone asking me about the am i going
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to remove the
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plastic cover on the dial
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you know what i don't know some of you
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okay me
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and plastic covers we have a different
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relationship okay
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because some of you if you guys noticed
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whenever i'm making a coffee with the
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rental service
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in my shop i still have that a plastic
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cover on it so
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i don't know someday i'm going to remove
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everything but yeah i don't know
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i mean we'll see okay thank you for
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asking
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i think we are good this morning and by
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the way if you haven't found if you have
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not followed me on instagram make sure
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to do it okay
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i mean i do a lot of behind the scene
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content also we chitchat a lot on my
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uh instagram live i mean it's not like
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any other instagram page
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we just go live and we talk coffee and
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we just hang out for like 20 minutes
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10 15 20 minutes so i i usually have my
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regular guest
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on regular guest is you you guys so yeah
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it's a lot of fun
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just jump in all right see you guys next
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time