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today we have another grinder comparison
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we have the baratza siete 270 wi
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in the df-64
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turn before we dive into this comparison
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in review uh i just want to say welcome
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about this grinder if i don't want to
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so just wanted to give a fair warning
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about this this is still a completely
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unbiased review and i still did have to
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follow me there let's dive into it so we
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got the baratza siete 270 wi this is i
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believe at
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580 dollars if you get it without the
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smart scale so if you get it without the
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w i so it's just the baratza siete 270
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it would be about 400
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this one is currently online at espresso
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outlet for 450 i believe but i
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it wouldn't surprise me if this grinder
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went up in price so we're looking at
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this one is about
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a hundred dollars more with the scale
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feature and this one is
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uh
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50 more than the one without the scale
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feature
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so let's go ahead and dive on to the
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features and we're going to compare that
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starting off so first off they both come
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with these catch cups here
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this one
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is way better in my opinion because you
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can put a 58mm four filter on top of it
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flip it over and it fits perfectly on
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this one this one you kind of just
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have to finagle it in
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with the spout here but i do like this
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cup quite a lot this one also has a
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feature of pushing down this handle and
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you can slide a portafilter in right
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there so you can um
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grind straight into a portafilter this
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one uh you can also put a portafilter in
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the hands right here both of these are
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what is known as a zero retention
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grinder zero attention being that the
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grinder does not hold
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any grounds on the inside or at least
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very
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very little inside so like what you put
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in bean wise it's what's going to come
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out uh bean wise so the benefit of that
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for the home user uh if you don't have
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grind retention you don't have to purge
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the grind so on on a traditional
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non-zero retention grinder what would
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happen if you put 18 grams in you'd pull
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your shot of espresso and say it was off
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you maybe change your grind setting a
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little bit pull again but what you're
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actually doing is you're you'd be
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pushing through two grams of old coffee
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into your
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new grind setting so even if it's a day
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old you'll be having like a couple grams
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of coffee going into your shot of
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espresso that were ground the day before
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because it would hold a couple of grams
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of coffee on the inside these hold very
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little i don't know specifically how
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much but like
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point zero two if that um
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so that's something i'd be thinking
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about this one is more of a you load
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this up with beans and to get the best
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results you'll load it up with beans and
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then you'll just grind
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until the time is done if you have the
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non wi or this one has the acai scale
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which is about 150 scale or so built
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into it so you click 18 it's going to
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grind out 18.0 if you want to do 18.5
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it's going to grind out 18.5
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automatically each time this one you
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have to basically
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there is no this is the hopper here so
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you put your 18 grams in and you grind
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your 18 grams so you have to load it up
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every single time the benefit i find for
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this one is the fact that if you change
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beans often or change brew methods often
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it's easier to do that with this grinder
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because
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you don't have to mess with changing the
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hopper and if you change the hopper and
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turn it off it locks all the beans so
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you can then dump them out here there's
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a lock off but you still will hold like
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five to six grams i would say of coffee
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in there after you lock that off so
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you'd still have to be wasting coffee or
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dumping it over to get that
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this one is quite loud
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this marks the
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seven
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the seven represents the
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seventh year of baratza which is kind of
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how they got this design this also has
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270 adjustments on here meaning that
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this top part here is a click adjustment
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and you can see the numbers written
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right here in this a through
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a through i down here is the fine
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adjustment setting so you can fine tune
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and tweak it so if you find it's too big
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of a jump from 15 to 14 you can go and
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tweak that down a little bit so it has
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270 degrees or 270 grind settings you
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can do when you do the math together
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so it's basically a stepless adjustment
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so you got stepped up here and then the
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stepless tweaking here this one is all
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stepless so when you move it you just
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simply move it to wherever you want it
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and that's how you do things um
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and it can go all the way up to
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do coarser grinds like a chemex or a
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cold blue or v60 or kalita wave whatever
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you want to do this one is really gonna
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this can do v60 but it's not really
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going to do very well in v60 this is
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more aimed toward espresso on there this
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one not that it's a big deal but this
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has a
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detachable
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cord
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so you can unplug that from the back of
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it
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but there is no core storage so if you
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have
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if this is like a countertop and a wall
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in your kitchen here you're going to
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have to figure out a creative way to
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like
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tape the cords to the back of this
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grinder so it's not all spread out on
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top of your countertop if you have a
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coffee bar set up like this you can
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simply just drop the cord off the back
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here and it looks clean
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that way
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um let's get into a few other things
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here so when i consider zero retention
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this one does substantially better you
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get pretty much zero retention in there
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because they have a unique
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burst set up here where the inner bur i
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believe stays place and the outer bur
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rotates along here and the grinds go
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directly straight down through into your
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coffee this one kind of has a
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a bellow on top here which means you're
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supposed to simply press that bellow to
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remove the excess grinds from the
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machine because you have
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beans go in and then they have to go out
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this way and they can kind of get
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clogged up in there so it has this
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bellow in there but even with the bellow
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i find when you take this machine
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entirely apart this one has more ground
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on the inside than this one something to
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think about it's not bad though on the
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inside it is still fairly zero retention
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in realms of other grinders that i have
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tested and used over time
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if you're looking for an all-around
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grinder this one is going to do better
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if you're looking for probably
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convenience i think this one definitely
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does a lot better because when you click
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the weight button and it dispenses that
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it's really nice thing to do that in the
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morning if you're not changing coffees a
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lot if you're just going for espresso
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another thing to note is this one has
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conical burs this one has flat burs what
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that means is this one has a cone shape
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here and typically the cone would be the
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thing that spins but this one is a
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little different and it has a round
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outer burr on the outside that goes that
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the cone goes inside so the outer burst
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spins shoving the coffee through this
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way this one has flat burs coffee goes
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in and it goes out these flat birds that
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sit basically on top of each other and
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that is kind of more of a preference
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type of a thing on which one you like
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better
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both are great and both have their
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strengths and their faults
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this one is loud and pretty lightweight
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i can lift this fairly easily sitting
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down with one hand
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um
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i don't know i could lift i can barely
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lift that i can't really get that off
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the ground i can't get it off the ground
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on my left hand but basically where i
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was going on with this this is solid
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metal here this is
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all plastic
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everywhere and they did that so they
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could cut the cost down because this is
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a phenomenal grinder for that this one
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is all metal pretty much except for this
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is that metal
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even this base plate is
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metal
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is it
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that's plastic that's plastic but this
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entire casing is metal so it does a very
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very good job and it feels very solid
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when you do grind um with it overall if
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i were picking one or the other
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i think i would pick this one because
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it's not just about convenience this is
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kind of an all-around grinder for me
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it's cheaper than this one like i can
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buy this one
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and
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almost i can almost buy that high skill
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that's built into it that i could have
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outside of it but even if you're
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comparing this one to the non wi thing
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in just the 270w or 270w no just sorry
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270. um and this one's 50 bucks more
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you're going to get so much better
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quality out of that 50
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out of this one and i think your shots
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will taste substantially better with
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this one over
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the paratha
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if you have any questions with this
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or any of these grinders please let me
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know i tried to get a quick little
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overview of each of them but i'm sure
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i've missed some stuff but if you own
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one of these two and want to share your
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opinions feel free
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to do that in the comments below but if
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you have any questions or want to know
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some more on these
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please let me know
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those questions in the description in
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the comments below
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like i said please if you're looking at
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purchasing these please use the
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affiliate link below i'm just gonna
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start off right at the back this is the
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only one that i make commission off of i
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prefer this one i do not make any
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commission i have no benefit to it but
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the company graciously sent me one at a
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discount so i would appreciate it if you
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did help them out by purchasing this
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grinder through them also this little
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dial indicator here
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um that was sent to me from portakeeper
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and it's 12 and it's definitely well
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worth it because this
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is the dial indicator on it which is
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very very difficult to line up so if
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you'd support them out too that'd be
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brew with that home and lastly again
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